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Pat Kirwan on D&C: Jets happy with Randy Moss trade

10.06.10 at 9:55 am ET
By   |   Comments analyst Pat Kirwan joined the Dennis & Callahan show Wednesday morning to talk about the Patriots’ trade of Randy Moss to the Vikings. To hear the interview, visit the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page.

“For the future it makes sense, because they weren’t going to re-sign him, so they’re getting what they always like to get, second- and third-round picks, in this case a third. Who knows whether they parlay it for a first,” Kirwan said. “It does beg the question, ‘What are they thinking about for this season?’ I felt this way when they moved Richard Seymour the last time.”

Looking at how the Patriots will move on without Moss, Kirwan said: “They must think an awful lot of Brandon Tate. And they must really think with [Rob] Gronkowski and [Aaron] Hernandez, they can keep going forward. Someone’s got to play the weak side, outside of Wes Welker. That’s what sets Welker up all the time. I don’t know how that’s going to shape up right now. Right now, I’d say they going to think Brandon Tate can go over there and do that.”

Kirwan said to expect to hear stories filter out about Moss being a negative influence on the team, “Now we’ll hear all kind of rumors that he was unhappy in the locker room and everything else,” Kirwan predicted. “But I’m up there enough, and I’ve watched them practice enough, the guy practices hard and he’s still got great talent. How long it’s going to last, I don’t know. But for this season and next season, you’re getting a premier player in Minnesota, and I did not a deterioration of skills this summer when I was up there, nor did I see it when I watched him on tape.”

Asked if the deal was made from a football standpoint and not based on emotions, Kirwan said: “I worked with Bill, not very long, but, unemotionally is how the man operates. He’s a business guy and he sees what he has, and he usually doesn’t like to leave the cupboard bare.”

Ultimately, the biggest winner might be the Patriots’ division rivals. “No one’s happier than the New York Jets,” Kirwan said. “They couldn’t care less about the one game they have to play against Randy and Minnesota [Monday night]. They know that their arch enemy is not the same team they were before.”

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Poll: What is your take on the Randy Moss trade?

10.06.10 at 9:40 am ET
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Moss dealt to Minnesota for third-round pick

10.06.10 at 9:09 am ET
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The Patriots and Vikings have completed a deal that sends wide receiver Randy Moss back to Minnesota for a third-round pick in the 2011 draft.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter appeared on Dennis & Callahan Wednesday morning and confirmed the trade.

Moss, 33, is a seven-time Pro Bowler who was drafted by the Vikings in 1998, and played in Minnesota for seven years before being dealt to Oakland. A miserable two-year stretch with the Raiders followed before the receiver was reborn in New England with Tom Brady ‘€” in 51 regular-season games with the Patriots, Moss has 50 touchdown catches, including an NFL-record 23 in 2007.

However, Moss, who is in the final year of a three-year contract he signed after the 2007 season, had made it known on several occasions that he did not anticipate being brought back to the Patriots after this season. In a memorable postgame press conference following the season-opening win over the Bengals, Moss said he felt unappreciated in New England because he hadn’€™t received a long-term deal.

‘€œThis is the last year of my contract. Nothing has been discussed. There’€™s not been anything said. Not a letter. Nothing,’€ Moss said last month. ‘€œI’€™m not saying that I want to stay here, but I love playing here. If the future of my job lets me go to another team, then that’€™s what it’€™s going to be. But for right now, I’€™m still in a contract for the New England Patriots, and I have a job to do.

‘€œI don’€™t want to talk about contracts. I just want to let you all know that I’€™m here to play my last season out. If an opportunity later on in the season presents itself for me to be a New England Patriot, I will accept that. But if it doesn’€™t, I must move on.’€

Moss’€™s numbers have taken a significant dip this season. Through four games, he has only nine catches, and on Monday night in Miami, did not catch a single pass for the first time in his three-plus seasons as a Patriot.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick said on Tuesday afternoon that there have been no overall changes to the Patriots’€™ passing game.

‘€œThe passing game (Monday) night is the same way the passing game has been for the last 10 years,’€ Belichick said Tuesday, before the trade news broke. ‘€œYou call a pass pattern, you have multiple receivers running various routes and, based on the coverage and the matchups, the quarterback decides where the best opportunity, leverage, space on the pattern is, and that’€™s who he throws to. That’€™s the way it always is. That’€™ll never really change.’€

Moss returns to a place where he enjoyed great success as a younger player, compiling six 1,000-yard seasons with Minnesota. The Vikings have had serious issues at wide receiver all season ‘€” Sidney Rice is out at least six weeks with a hip injury, and Percy Harvin continues to battle migraine issues. As a result, Minnesota and quarterback Brett Favre have struggled, losing two of their first three games.

In return, the Patriots receive a third-round pick for Moss, and now appear to be focusing squarely on the 2011 draft, where they have two first-round picks, two second-round picks, two third-round picks and two fourth-round picks.

When it comes to replacing Moss’€™s production, that burden will now likely fall to a variety of young pass catchers, including second-year wide receiver Brandon Tate and rookie tight end Aaron Hernandez, both of whom have put up good numbers throughout the early stages of the 2010 season as mostly intermediate and short-range targets for Brady. However, it remains to be seen if anyone can replace Moss as a deep threat ‘€” while the majority of his numbers have taken a hit this year, his yards per catch this season ‘€” 15.4 ‘€” still match up favorably with his career average of 15.6.

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Chris Mortensen on D&C: Randy Moss griping not ‘Patriot Way’

10.06.10 at 8:37 am ET
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ESPN’s Chris Mortensen joined the Dennis & Callahan show Wednesday morning to talk about the rumored Randy Moss trade to the Vikings. To hear the interview, visit the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page.

Mortensen said his sources are telling him the deal will go through Wednesday, and the analyst tried to explain why the trade will be made.

“I think if you just look at the DNA of the Patriots, from the owner Bob Kraft to Bill Belichick, and Jonathan Kraft and what have you ‘€” from Week 1 when Randy Moss decided to make a very clear statement that, ‘Yes, I want to be a Patriot but I want to be a contract but I want a new contract,’ that’s just not the Patriot Way, is it?”

Added Mortensen: “The contract thing probably was going to rear its ugly head more than one more time this year.”

Mortensen said there were signs on Monday night that Moss was being iced out of the offense, on a night when he had no catches and the Patriots posted a big victory over the Dolphins.

“Belichick was as happy as I’ve seen him,” Mortensen said. “Outside of the four AFC championship game and three Super Bowls, it’s about the happiest I’ve seen him look. And I think it was because, it was like, ‘All this work we’ve done, these young guys are starting to come around,’ combined with the fact that they had made a decision clearly a couple of weeks ago ‘€” especially when Minnesota got involved and they could not acquire Vincent Jackson ‘€” that Randy Moss was going to be out of town.”

Mortensen said he doesn’t believe the Patriots will in turn acquire Jackson, the suspended Chargers receiver, as some have speculated. He also said he didn’t consider the Patriots a Super Bowl-caliber team, but their performance on Monday bumped up their contending status.

“What I saw the other night, I said, ‘OK, you know what, of the top six teams or seven teams that I see as Super Bowl contenders, maybe I can still put the Patriots in that group at the bottom. And if you get young guys who get better, and Tom Brady is the best at what he does, and Belichick is the best at what he does. So, anything can happen.”

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Report: Pats to get third-round pick for Moss

10.06.10 at 7:07 am ET
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The rumored trade between the Patriots and Vikings would send Randy Moss to Minnesota for a third-round draft pick, according to a report from ESPN’s Adam Schefter. The story quotes a source as saying, “I’d be shocked if it doesn’t happen,” and predicted the deal will go through Wednesday.

Moss, a seven-time Pro Bowl receiver, is in the final season of his four-year deal with the Patriots. He was acquired from the Raiders for a fourth-round draft pick prior to the 2007 season.

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Report: ‘Blockbuster’ Moss deal will happen Wednesday

10.06.10 at 1:48 am ET
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The Patriots and Vikings plan on completing a “blockbuster” deal on Wednesday that will send wide receiver Randy Moss to the Vikings, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

Moss, 33, is a seven-time Pro Bowler who was drafted by the Vikings in 1998 and spent his first seven seasons in Minnesota before being traded to Oakland in 2005. Moss found new life in his career after being dealt to the Patriots in 2007 for a fourth-round draft pick ‘€” in New England, he set an NFL record with 23 touchdown receptions in his first season with the Patriots.

However, Moss, who is in the final year of a three-year deal with New England, has said on multiple occasions he does not feel wanted by the Patriots, and anticipates playing somewhere else in 2011.

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Three reasons why Moss trade works and three reasons it doesn’t

10.06.10 at 12:59 am ET
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Randy Moss back to Minnesota? The news from that the Patriots and Vikings are reportedly talking about a deal that would ship the receiver to Minnesota is stunning on a number of levels, and raises several questions.

Here are three reasons a deal would make sense, and three reasons it doesn’€™t (plus an important afterword):

Feeling A Draft: Bill Belichick covets draft picks like few coaches. He views them as draft day currency which can be flipped to create any number of scenarios, and with the serious possibility Moss wouldn’€™t return for 2011, it would certainly be in the Patriots best interest to get something for him while they could. (It’€™s safe to presume the deal would involve draft picks, not players.) However, based on their team-building approach, it seems unlikely that even with Moss in the final year of his contract, the Patriots would settle for anything less than a second-rounder ‘€” especially when you consider that the Patriots would get a third-rounder as a comp pick if he did leave as a free agent ‘€” which would still be a steep price to pay for a 33-year-old wide receiver, even for a team that has a serious deficiency at wide receiver.

The Brett Favre Factor: In addition, there’€™s the deep relationship between Moss and the Minnesota quarterback to consider. The two have been close for several years ‘€” Favre lobbied hard for the Packers to swing a deal to acquire Moss in 2007, and had the following statement after the Patriots picked him up in a much-ballyhooed draft weekend deal in 2007: ‘€œThe last thing I want to do is start any [controversy],’€ Favre told ESPN. ‘€œBut I think he would have been a great addition. You throw Randy Moss, you throw Donald Driver and Greg Jennings on the field at the same time, and go three-wide receiver set … and I think it’€™s pretty intimidating. And we lost out on that, and I think that it’€™s a shame, because I know we could have had him.’€

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