Scary bad. Time for something drastic and bold BB. Stop patching and start cutting.

Other than that I’d say the secondary is having a fine year overall

Other than that I’d say the secondary is having a fine year overall

Seems like the pats have signed/drafted some Dbacks with promise. They start well and then fade badly(e.g. Devin McCoury, but h’s not the only one).  Is it coaching?  Who is the Pats DB coach?  Maybe they need a new one.

At which point do we stop putting all the blame on the players and start questioning the great defensive guru lol

It doesn’t seem to matter who you put back there it is awful and has been for years. That to me is scheme and coaching when you are consistently this bad

cant watch it anymore. How in the world does this defensive genius allow this to go on for this long? Scheme? Talent? Both? Dont care they need to atleast get a little bit better. BB is ruining this time when this team should be winning more champioships while Brady is still so darn good

Pathetic Secondary! Every time the opposing quarterback raises his arm to throw the football, my heart stops. I feel for the hard working defensive front line. 
BB needs to fix this problem pronto!

The pass defense has gotten worse every year for the last four years.

Where’s the defensive guru, Bill Belichek? His DBs don’t play the ball, are always out of position, and always get called for PI when battling a receiver for a ball.

There should be DB free agent auditons all week at Foxboro; it can’t get any worse. Or is BB going to go back to the incredibly soft zone type defense they played at the end of last year and hope they can stop teams in the Red Zone?

Disgusting.

Completely agree. Every time an opposing QB drops back, you know what’s coming: pass interference, blown coverage, or touchdown, and sometimes all three.

People expect the offense to constantly carry this pathetic secondary they can’t every single game!! Tom & the offense can’t have a perfect Sunday every game. This $hitty secondary is the down fall of the team and we can’t win without improvement from this back end. This falls on Belichick lap for this ongoing problem and getting worst!

During their first three Super Bowl wins, they were known more for their defense despite Tom Brady and co. on offense.  Something changed, obviously a lot of those players are gone, but something else, maybe it’s the scouting, the coaching… they gotta address it.

The losses of Crennel and Mangini years ago were understated. Failure to replace that kind of coaching talent and staying with the status quo the past few years despite evidence that it isn’t working is unacceptable.

Coaching staff needs to take heat for not changing things up as far as scheme and in game adjustments. It’s pretty obvious to the fans that the current cover 2 and vanilla zone type defenses do not work and will not work in these games. How many times does this type of loss need to happen before you realize that maybe we are doing something wrong here? The talent is along the DL and at the LB corps. These guys are playing their a$$es off and are getting zero help from the CBs or S. Time to utilize your strengths and stop being passive and reactive along the sidelines each week as teams complete pass after pass down the field against this joke of a secondary.

I’m at the point where I DVR games and start watching at 3x speed if the team is up by less than three scores in the 4th quarter.  A degree less painful to handle that way when the inevitable collapse occurs, plus I’ll have saved a bit of a time.

If the offense could get a first down when it mattered, they would win most of these games.  The Patriots need to blow teams out, their offense (and defense) choke whenever the game is close and comes down to one crucial play.  I love Tom Brady, but he is not clutch any more.  It really can’t be denied any longer. 

Maybe we should have signed Samuel!!

After seeing Houston’s alleged quality defense last night, and after seeing Green Bay’s alleged quality defense, and so forth – let’s get to the real deal, which is that OFFENSE is ahead of defense LEAGUE WIDE.   It’s not a Patriots issue, it’s what the league now is.   You’re not going to win with defense (and seriously, when was that EVER true?) – you have to win with offense, and the Patriots didn’t do it.

As far as what defensive players are doing out there, is it a situation where the players are openly refusing to stick to their assigned areas?  Over and over I’ve heard the criticism that they bite on everything and don’t stay where they’re supposed to stay.   We saw this with Brandon Meriweather and Asante Samuel – is it a player culture where they won’t do what the coaches ask them?

Is it me?  I always thought you were suppose to turn to see where the ball is not just jump up with your back to the ball.  McCourty does this ALL THE TIME! Arrington isn’e any better.

except the Texans had one bad game, the Pats defense is consistently terrible. and the Packers defense creates turnovers. as for not winning with defense, go ask the Giants how they won their 2 SB’s over the Pats, because it sure as hell wasn’t with offense.

Wonder what snit chased Pees outta town???

They should just safety- and cornerback-blitz the entire game.  Blitz on every down.  Do SOMETHING.  Why worry about giving up the big play when you’re giving them up by the truckload?  Right now, with this group, you stand a better chance of sending 3 speedy guys on an outside rush and hope they get to the QB before he lets it fly.

No Disipline on the keys late in a game, basis 101 football, pop warner teams know it also. We used to be bend but don’t break, now we are just collapsing on an epic scale in both offense and defense. Nobody can find a way to finish.

I agree. I find it odd that no patriots defensive back plays the ball. They always seem to play the WR which is clearly not working for them. I don’t know if they don’t match up physically, are simply unable to play this type of defense or if it is simply a scheme, but none of the Pats defensive backs ever seem to have their eyes in the backfield. The days of Law and Samuel jumping routes for picks seems to be long gone.

I couldn’t agree more.  You’ve got to do something- if you can’t cover you might as well attack the QB.  I thought the same thing while watching the Ravens come back.

This seems to be a Patriot trend.  They nearly gave away the AFC Championship game due to their inability to get one last first down.  Watching yesterday, with 3 minutes left and a first down, I knew exactly what was going to happen: two yards and a punt.  Sure as heck….

One has to ask the question “are they to stupid to learn how to play defense?”; are they that lacking in talent and speed that they are incapable of covering anyone?”; “is the coaching so incompetent that it actually subtracts from what they may have learned in college?”; or scariest of all….all of the above”. 

It infuriates me to no end that the Patriots have known their secondary has sucked for YEARS & yet they do NOTHING drastic to try and fix it. Here is another season that will be wasted cause of their pathetic pass defense. Who will be the next QB that will look like a Hall of Famer passing versus this defense? Ryan Tannehill of Miami? Mark Sanchez next week? Another Tom Brady year wasted on the piss poor defense. You must have some sort of defense to win in the NFL. That was proven last Super Bowl. When the Patriots defense needed to come up with a stop, they faltered and the Patriots lost the game in the end. Yea Yea I know the Giants had 3 fumbles but yet the Patriots didn’t recover 1 of them. Although the Patriots literally lost 3 of their games due to a late field goal, missed late field goal, or late td score, they could be 6-0 right now. But they’ve said this all season, “We need to play 60 minutes of good football.” And they haven’t done that.